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Egoraptor

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Egoraptor

My efforts against Youtube.

Posted by Egoraptor Mar. 31, 2008 @ 2:01 AM EDT

It seems everyone hates Youtube here, and with good reason. It's easy for people to take content off of Newgrounds and slap it right on there to rack up pageviews for their own "channels." There was a point where I didn't even want to bother to count how many Metal Gear Awesomes were uploaded on Youtube. It pissed me off because I saw that it was getting millions of views there, but not here on Newgrounds where it was intended to be. Not only that, but most of these submitters were getting the credit for making it. What a joke.

I discovered, however, a very very nice feature Youtube has called the Content Verification Program. Essentially you fax them some information, and bam, you have the power to report and within minutes delete work that has been made by you and wrongfully uploaded by others. Metal Gear Awesome doesn't exist on Youtube anymore unless one has been uploaded in the past hour, and I'm still weeding out the individual Awesome shorts.

However, I came to think about the people who search Youtube and know nothing else. They don't even know what Newgrounds is, or even GOOGLE for that matter, and now that it's gone from Youtube... they have no other source to look to for it. That's why I made this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77_4n7C eiHA

A short, simple little message that people find when they search "Metal Gear Awesome" on Youtube. I provide links to the originals and basic information, and a cute little animation to go with it. I don't know how well this will go over as far as serving its purpose, but I'm trying to do what I can to stop this Youtube stealing bullshit.

Did any of you know about this program? What else have you done to stop your videos from being stolen by users on Youtube? This is an issue I know a lot of animators here are concerned about, and I'd like to hear your opinions and ideas on this matter.

Thanks guys!

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222 Comments

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:10 AM MRat says:

It's great that there is a system, and that you have control.

I won't have to worry about this ever though, because I don't make cartoons that are accessible on a mental level to everyone. Generally you have to think about what you just watched when I made it, and the YouTube generation hates thinking, so I don't have anything to worry about.

Anyway, I hope more people follow your example and take the reins on their own content like this.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:26 AM Egoraptor responds:

If I can do it, anyone can. The awesome series is out of control when it comes to people uploading it on Newgrounds, and I pretty much search Youtube for more submissions every morning as a daily routine. It's a bitch to maintain.. but 'eh...

I only wish there was a submission filter where you could cut it off at the source and have Youtube flag copyrighted material immediately.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:11 AM Akitta says:

Stealing bastards ><# show em' who's the boss!! (well...owner of the awesome series...whatever)


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:12 AM rtil says:

as much as your cartoons make me want to rip my face off, i'm glad that you are doing this. i wasn't aware of the feature, but that's quite nice of them. they still need a feature for people who didn't make the content to report something as stolen. currently they only have tools for 'this infringing on MY copyright'. but then again, they'd have to deal with thousands more reports if they did that, and a lot of false ones at that.

i'm not doing anything to stop people personally, because they all had watermarks on them to begin with. yes, the horrible compression and retarded aspect ratio is horrifying, but in the same way people steal my swf's, it's not a huge deal because as long as my name and the site is still on it, i'm fine i guess. unless it got really out of hand. but that would only happen if it was about a video game or had a pair of boobs for the icon.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:37 AM Egoraptor responds:

It would be nice to have a 3rd party reporting system, however I think the way it is now is sufficient. If there is content you want to report stolen, it's simply a matter of reporting it directly to the creator instead of Youtube. The creator can then act upon it him/herself. I get bunches of PMs from people saying they found my stuff on other sites... so it's not too uncommon. There's the issue of the author simply not caring, but at that point, it's not really an issue anymore, is it?

Watermarking is a good idea and I should really start doing that. I always thought credits were sufficient, but I get the feeling a lot of people simply turn it off during them or even before it gets to them.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:14 AM MERGAN says:

you are right, awesome series should ONLY be on newgrounds


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:14 AM MentosClock says:

Good job! Hopefully that message will help more people learn about Newgrounds!

Luckily, I don't need to worry about having my stuff stolen, because nobody outside of Newgrounds cares about the Clock Crew.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:22 AM ShadowGears says:

I think that program is Brilliant! I cringe everytime I see a Tankmen or Awesome Vid on Youtube because quite simply even if they don't want the credit, it is still *sopposed* to be here on our beloved Newgrounds. The majority of the time they simply rip them and post them without even consulting the artist and another portion of those just want to hog all the glory for themselves! Just look at Charlie the Unicorn for example, it was famous on Newgrounds way before it was made a worldwide hit on Youtube and, that youtuber just claimed all the credit for himself! I don't have anything worth stealing on NG at the moment but I can easily imagine the anoyance that you must go through and i'm glad that Youtube has done SOMETHING about this worldwide problem.

-S.G.-


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:29 AM RubberNinja says:

This is great news.

I have had many episodes of Gamer Tonight posted without permission.. Now because of this I'll be taking the appropriate actions to get them all removed.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:42 AM Egoraptor responds:

It's really a simple process, and it doesn't take too long to not only get verified, but also to have your requests for deletion to be verified.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:38 AM q13qew says:

Well l may agree dude l may agree


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:39 AM q13qew says:

L totally agree dude


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:39 AM nekoheehee says:

well good! im glad that they have that kinda program, and thanks for linking it. if any of my stuff gets on there i'll know what to do.
im just curious as to what you faxed them as proof, if yah wouldn't mind sharin that is? i'd just like to know incase me or anyone i know runs into the same problem.
Down with art theft! woohooo!

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:41 AM Egoraptor responds:

Just click the link to the content verification program, and check out the application. It can explain it better than me retyping it all.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:52 AM Dazmi says:

I don't really care if something gets stolen.
In fact, I'd like someone to steal something on mine :3

I guess if the creator doesn't like it, then it shouldn't be on youtube :p


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:04 AM ShirtTurtle says:

aha brilliant he points right to the link.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:14 AM Egoraptor responds:

Haha, I'm glad someone noticed that! I looked at another Youtube submission and sized up everything so his finger lined up perfectly to where it appeared in the description.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:07 AM Cyberdevil says:

I like youtube, and I like the company behind it as well, and I like the fact that they can't stop the flow off ilegal uploads on TV series/movies/etc completely. Anyhow, Youtube and the grounds of new are seperate places for me. I'm here for flash and I'm there for "real" movies, music videos, and to look at some of the so incredibly stupid comments that grace the moviepages. Tis a great place!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:25 AM PolishMatt says:

Yeah, you wouldn't beleive how much I would get pissed off when this one guy kept telling everyone at my school to "Youtube search Awesome Creed" and all this other bullshit. I told him about the Awesome series and Egoraptor, I linked him to Newgrounds and what does he do? doesn't even remember the Author's name and just goes to Youtube to watch some funny animated jokes in fucking disgusting compression video format.

Tomorrow I will make sure to tell him that they're not there anymore and he has no choice but to visit Newgrounds if he wants to watch it. It's even worse when faggots complain that they have to download Flash Player. If it's one thing that every computer should be installed with from the start, it's Flash Player.

I'm happy for you that you're finally taking control of your content on the web and making sure 13 year old jack offs don't get millions of page views on their bullshit 'channels' and get credited for production of content they stole.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:27 AM WolfBlitz2 says:

YEAH
take it to the man!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:32 AM Bug says:

Views: 1

Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:35 AM Egoraptor responds:

Yeah I don't quite understand Youtube's system.. I look at my account and it says it has over 200 views now with 10 comments, but it doesn't show up on the public access one. Weird.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:44 AM KlausT says:

... let me try to make a psychoanalysis about people ripping Newgrounds stuff to Youtube proclaiming it to be their own work ...

... and we are not talking about 13 years old fags people ...

... the question is what kind of parents let their primary-school kids alowe to steal, lie and posses a Youtube account???


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:46 AM Bug says:

haha i just checked it a minute ago and it went backwards its 12 now.

anyway i knew about that content thing but it requires a fax machine! who has a FAX MACHINE? this isnt 1986!!!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:06 AM Gerkinman says:

Well done...i guess thats all i can say. =D

Its funny how people of clashing tastes and ideals can still come together when there is a common threat.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:21 AM Egoraptor responds:

If only there were more opportunities like this.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:20 AM ValeChippa6925 says:

Just thought I should bring this to your attention Ego:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6OSPT 4CcGk

Another copy of Metal Gear Awesome 2. Hope this helps.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:20 AM shortson says:

Nice dude! I lyk the ending ta that ...anyways, whens the DVD????


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:28 AM RWA says:

Yo,I found some thing that weren't deleted,like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kDqaUOPXCZ w&feature=related

and some german stuff,check in "related"

neat idea tho,man ;)


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:28 AM KupaMan says:

I'm almost jealous of your situation. The only cartoon I've ever made that was popular enough to get stolen was one of the worst cartoons I've done.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:29 AM jamboreen says:

FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

Sadly i just did a search on related material for the awesome series, i'm thinking the whole of Newgrounds (Gamers, Scripters, Artists and Asshats) should band together along with Tom and the crew to form some kind of Copyright Protection League of Newgrounds :D. think of the parodies!

anyway im glad someone well knowns taking a stand, although casual users wont usually see this, f they manage to spot your name on the front page they'll leave here being a little wiser about what actually goes on here.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:36 AM RubberNinja says:

Say Arin.. Can I borrow your fax machine?


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:47 AM Magyar says:

Its a good thing you are trying to get the credit you deserve by doing this even though it's an overrated series, stealing is bad.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:51 AM Gerkinman says:

If we all wanted to make stuff that has the chance of any kind of viral success no doubt there would be more opportunities. But if people, myself included keep making stuff people dont want to watch then it will never be a problem for us.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:07 AM consternation says:

this kind of shit happens krinkels i think hes the one getting his balls kicked the hardest in this issue :/

p.s MGA2 Pwns


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:09 AM The-Swain says:

Punch them right in the Youtube, that always does it.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:14 AM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

I'm so glad my cartoons are too weird and nonsensical for fags to steal and put on youtube


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:14 AM Brown-Acid says:

he he you've pissed of all your youtube fans now


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:17 AM darator says:

lol. good job egorapter!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:33 AM JohnnyUtah says:

only recently realized people were ripping some of my stuff to youtube...my tankmen bullshit partially advertises newgrounds so I guess I don't have a problem with it for now.

anyways, that's a clever way of informing all the youtube mouth breathers and knuckle draggers...well played sir.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:43 AM Killerkb says:

Hehe, that mini movie was funny.
I agree on the fact that to much movies are stolen, ripped, and then put on youtube.
Its nice that they have a system.
Also, keep up your good work.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:09 AM omgbbq says:

good work. i liked the video you put onto youtube


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:16 AM Wiiporter says:

YouTube is the one website I know of that steals content and makes it worse (smaller screen, bad quality). At least when most websites steal from NG, they keep it in flash form.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:16 AM Psychopathica13 says:

Well, if you set up the simple little anti theft code right, the movie won't play at all, so it can't be recorded. If you don't know the code I'm talking about, just NG search the portal for "The Super Duper Tutorial" (it was the first thing that came to mind, seeing as it's the only tut i've ever bothered to look at and as far as i know its the only one that covers anti theft at all...) it has it in there, but you might have to look around a bit. Sorry.

You can actually do a lot with AS- using (i believe) mochibot (idk) you can set up a flash so it will only work on a certain browser, so it knows if there's some sort of screen recording program, etc... a lot of stuff, basically, to help secure your flashes.

oh, and on a final note, IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE STEALING YOUR FLASH, DON'T MAKE THEM SO GODDAMNED GOOD!!!!!!!!! No one wants to get credit for a shit flash, right?


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:24 AM Wiiporter says:

This just in, Metal Gear Awesome is not on YouTube has been copied +200 times and put on various websites.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:29 AM The-Landow-Nunder says:

I don't know how they did it, but Waterlollies had a thing in there flash that would make it unplayable unless it was on Newgrounds. Sometimes I rip flash animations off here BUT for personal use only, just so I don't have to keep loading it to watch my favourites.

Anyway, you should look into what Waterlollies did and make any future animations unplayable unless they're on here. It's pathetic to see people do this. Despite it being the internet, I thought people would have some kind of respect for animators and not rip off anyones animations.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:41 AM DWT-Productions says:

great idea, its totally understandable if people's hard work and effort is ripped off by some douchebags wanting to rack up some views. Great idea dude, hope it works...
however the thing is that you can find all most "ANYTHING" on youtube these days so it's gonna hard to track down every flash movie because there's always a chance that one might slip though


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:55 AM Scalene says:

Stolen copy fo' ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B8MwW 7Vu_I


Mar. 31, 2008 | 7:13 AM Psi43 says:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search _query=metal+gear+awesome&search_
type=

still more than enough of these, sadly.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:03 AM jesmarlesmar says:

youtube sucks.. just like tv... Egocaptured!!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:11 AM megamanzerozx4 says:

So you mean that you never put those videos on Youtube?
Great now I can yell at them!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:16 AM Wonchop says:

Aww I was wondering what happened to all the swell MGA2 poops =(

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:49 PM Egoraptor responds:

I didn't delete the poops. I don't know what happened to them, most are still up.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:30 AM Stevezor says:

Great. I hadn't known about the Content Verification Program until you mentioned it, but that is just great. If I were to ever do flash animating (doubtful) I would surely use that function.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:41 AM fetusdoctor says:

I always put a big fat warning at the beginning of my movies that says "If you see this movie on anywhere besides Newgrounds.com, it is stolen!" I still found one of my cartoons on Youtube one day, but the person was forced to admit in their comments that it wasn't their movie, and said they were just uploading it because they liked the movie so much. I was kinda flattered so I just let it slide.

So yeah, put a nice warning, maybe 3-5 seconds long, that says "This cartoon for Newgrounds.com only". This gets Newgrounds' name out and makes it pretty obvious that the movie is stolen.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:50 AM Donut-Fergie says:

That's awesome!

Alvin-Earthworm needs to be told that so his SMBZ series gets taken off YouTube. I don't HATE YouTube for the kind of stuff like this, but i don't like it.

Btw, is there gonna be a Metal Gear Awesome 3?


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:54 AM TheFlashCrew says:

who dosn't hate Youtube anymore D=


Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:14 AM Luis says:

I'm still on the fence on this issue. I am not really doing anything to stop it because part of me accepts that the internet has become this viral place where people want something and their hunger is so strong that they are willing to settle for a piece of shit quality to get it. Its fucked up but it is what it is. I've always seen the internet as an untamable beast that can be loving in nurturing one second and yet is powerful enough to rip your hand off.

If i have one gripe its against newgrounds. This site lives in a fucking bubble. The bulk of the internet doesnt know what a newgrounds is, or all the great talent that lives here. Maybe im in the minority but i WANT people to take my stuff.. i want people to put my content on their myspace/wordpress/whatever... newgrounds makes it impossible for anyone to do that. The reason people turn to youtube is because its so easy to snag the code and have this turnkey portable 'widget' that you can share and throw all over the internet. I used to enjoy the fact that NG is very niche and 'underground' but that comes with its own set of setbacks.... we shouldnt have to resort to shitholes like youtube.. artists should feel that by coming to newgrounds they are getting the most traffic for their buck (i know the site is free shutup)... i just feel like ng has a ways to go before it really feels like a portal.
Right now people are forced to come to know a bit about newgrounds, about how it works and what its all about.. they are forced to track you down and then track your movie down etc etc. It was fine in early 2000 but its no longer efficient by todays standards. People are never going to come here first because its plain old too much of a chore to come here and be forced to stay here to enjoy it. We live in an age where people become die-hard fans and bookmarking isnt enough. It's too late to stop that hunger, we need to embrace it and be the ones who open the floodgates rather than letting some snotball do it on youtube. I hate youtube but right now they fill a void that ng isnt able to fill.. and it just frusterates me.

Anywho if you havent already, definately watermark your stuff. Youtube is but one of the many sites that offer people a chance to syndicate their own stuff.. you can only catch what you can see and so you should just make it automatic to watermark your shit. You definately deserve the credit for all that you do.

/rant


Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:21 AM Luis says:

double post. The point of my rant is that people are going to take my/your stuff. There is absolutely no way around that.

I figure if they have to take my stuff and pimp it around the net then i want to be the one who gives it to them. I can then ensure its being represented at the quality i am happy with etc etc.

Maybe this is a pipe dream but If ng had something on the portal where when you submit it there is like extra optional fields that would allow you to create a standalone little ng player that people could snag and use that would be awesome. Something like youtube's video player shell. If we had that capability it would help people realize oh the version on youtube is a piece of shit you can get the legit crisp version of it from ego's userpage ... you know what im saying?


Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:31 AM RPGamer says:

Um Ego, you should check again there is a couple of stuff that is yours there, Did you let the videos that were recognize that you made them or your gonna delete them all cuz I saw a couple still on youtube. For example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrYde 7CsrE

Oh and I love the video you've made it was Awesome and even more awesome was the face in the end Priceless


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:05 AM Ansel says:

I wasn't aware of that content verification program. That's a really great thing, as well. I have this little program that came preinstalled on my computer, and I recorded the Yuyu with it as a test. It was high-quality and if I'd put it on youtube after some slight editing, I could've passed it as my own, and a lot of people would've believed me.

What pisses me off even more i the people on youtube who really do just watch the video, without paying attention to the author comments or anything else. The author will record something they like and upload it, and often they'll say in large caps letters I DIDN'T MAKE THIS, THIS IS BY BLAH AT BLAH.BLAH and yet the comments read along the lines of "YOU SO GOOD AT MAKING MOVIES HOW U DO IT?!?!?!"

I'm disgusted with the majority of the youtube userbase anyway.

your little message thing makes me giggle. Are you still getting PM's about making awesome flashes about shit? Cause that's exactly the kind of thing I was talking about with youtube. squealing fanboys send you these ideas without bothering to pay attention to what you say about it.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:54 PM Egoraptor responds:

Yes, I do. But, I mean, it's flattering.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:14 AM DarkShiro91 says:

That's the way it should be done. I have noticed that there are many other NG submissions on Youtube, and i think everyone should take a look on Youtube's videos just to make sure there aren't any of your videos there. Unless you want them to be there. I respect the actions like the one Egoraptro did.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:18 AM Ragnarokia says:

So basicly all users who have their work stolen can now act like self centred bastards and keep it in their close circle...Sure I am game.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:55 PM Egoraptor responds:

If that's the way you wanna see it.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:42 AM mystic8ball says:

Looking at your channel, people seem to think that "U R A FAK" ¬.¬

I'm glad that you're doing this since stolen stuff is the cancer killing youtube


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:43 AM commando999 says:

F people in the A who ninja from NG. I'm glad to see that you're taking a stance on that BS!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 11:25 AM lenkobiscuit says:

Eh, it's exposure I guess. Even though others may be semi-taking the credit for it, you've still got thousands of people enjoying your comedy antics.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 11:28 AM SirPongo says:

Ross (Rubberninja) wrote almost the same thing on Gamers Tonight Website, but he said that YouTube only removes videos that are of big companies not of the single person who does it. I actually feel glad that for once someone actually removed videos that weren't of companies.

there is an option to stop people from getting credit for what you worked on; watermark your flash. what i mean is that put your name in the flash (eg in the bottom right corner), that way any one who googles your name will find out that it does not belong to him.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 11:35 AM hagaya says:

stomp some mr. raptor. You read my friggin' mind! I have been telling people for SO long that the youtube generation does not know things outside of Youtube. They only talk about myspace and youtube, and do not realize that they are geeks, though not very good ones. Youtube is a site for people who use it to get more open publicity, and people who create independent videos, and the fruckheads who think that they can steal things from goodhearted dudes like you who only want poeple to enjoy what you have created for them and possibly make money off of other peoples shit. A way to do it, is put one frame on it, symbols within symbols. Sacrificing a little file size to put a 'watermark' with:
"property of egoraptor" or "for NG only" I did this to the two tings I am working on, Dual Gravity, a platformer; and my FanAwesome; No More Awesome. Try it, then see that the only way to edit it out is to do it in flash(as far as I am concerned). hope I help and get people reading these comments exited for something new


Mar. 31, 2008 | 12:16 PM Xurch says:

Worst thing is people think most of this stuff was on youtube first.
Dave who makes RAB gets all the episodes on the DVD removed along with their accounts but they still keep coming.
Its also annoying to see Charlie the unicorn with like 21 million views on youtube and only 1.8 million on newgrounds.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 12:25 PM altffour says:

http://googlified.com/files/who-delet ed-your-youtube-videos.html

#557 Shawn Vulliez

I have worked hard to get the hundreds of copies of Ultimate Showdown off Youtube, but they keep on coming back.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 12:55 PM mexifry895 says:

I'm glad your getting rid of the Copyright Infringers.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 1:14 PM RadioactiveRhino says:

Wow. Just wow. On one of the copies, I found this comment.

2hatsciaran (1 hour ago)
the guy who made this is pathetic, he's terrified that people will steal his copywrite


Mar. 31, 2008 | 1:18 PM Osuka says:

i think that can be stolen with:

HYPERCAM, a software to record what are you doing on your pc, so they can play your flash and record it

I dont know the name but there is a sofwware to decompile SWF into FLA


Mar. 31, 2008 | 1:32 PM DillePickle says:

Finally something to stop people with no talent stealing other peoples flashes.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 1:46 PM MasterOfDaWay666 says:

I got a question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QknRXe SFzAQ
Stuff like this: Own animation, your voices, sounds etc.
Is that allowed?

Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:57 PM Egoraptor responds:

I'll let that stuff slide. I think of my younger days and how I would make something like that. At least they're creating something.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 1:53 PM Preybird says:

i get where u coming from about people stealing what they should not but should u raly be angry with yuotube or the people who posted it ask u self that


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:11 PM stephen3 says:

That's a good idea, Ego. Usinug the enemy site itself to make people see the real deal. You've out done yourself.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 2:14 PM Blink-the-God says:

People post stuff one 4chan from Newgrounds all the time. Difference is it only lasts a few hours and then can't be re-uploaded for another 24hrs. The Starscream scene from Blamformers is the most frequented upload of Newgrounds. As for YouTube, Half the shit is stolen work and the other half is either retards with cameras, AMVs, or how to overheat your 360 to void its warrenty. Anything Legit sucks and anything good is stolen, simple as that. But good work, I like to see when an artist puts their foot down and says enough is enough and regains some control over their property.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:16 PM SocietysNoose says:

This is great that your going through and making sure that your work is not stolen, but I think Youtube needs to do more. I agree with Luis on the fact that NG is isolated and not that well known, but Youtube also has many faults. What there needs to be is people as moderators for free that check for stolen videos. I think that at least if the people that steal your flashes should at least give you credit, but most either don't say anything on who made it or they just say that they got is on NG. If the thieves that are stealing your animations at least give you credit and maybe display say your website for something at least you would get credit. This would mean that there would still be traffic to you and your website because people watched your work on Youtube. I guess what I'm saying is that it wouldn't so bad if someone copied your work and put it on Youtube if they at least give you credit for making, but most don't, which means that you are getting screwed over for someone else who's essentially taking credit. Youtube is still young, maybe they'll figure out how to make this problem either go down is occurrences or completely eliminate it. I hope that day comes soon.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:22 PM reality-monkey says:

well, my idea was to have the credits in the begginning having the newgrounds logo, very big and advertised, then, the names of anyone that actually did anything...followed by "only us, no other names deserve credit" then i was gonna ask adam philips how he kept little foot from being ripped (i wasnt going to steal it, this was a few months ago when i wanted it to study his backgrounds) i was going to leave that ver on newgrounds, while the ver without that code can be put on youtube under my name and mine alone...so it cant be stolen from newgrounds...and ill have the credits and stuff if they somehow try and copy it from youtube....

this works good too...


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:34 PM Raidden says:

Good thing you are up to this. I totally agree with you .


Mar. 31, 2008 | 3:36 PM Komix says:

Yeah, it's always a good idea to spend time on preventing people seeing your works, good job.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:50 PM Egoraptor responds:

Oh, you.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:01 PM robattle says:

Here's a thread from the NG BBS:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/8 61067

yeah srsly youtube has people who are so stupid that there could be 1000 metal gear awsome movies and the retarded people (most of youtube) give it 5s and say its so awsome, and think its from youtube not NG.

Also at this time there has only been 977 views for that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77_4n7 CeiHA movie thing, comparded to the millions of views the stolen movies got.

Well good luck man.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:02 PM robattle says:

opps that was the wrong thread I linked you to.

This is what I meant to link to: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/8 38318


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:04 PM Hellz-Yeah says:

Well, this explains alot. I recently saw that SSBB Theme Decoded flash on Youtube. The video had no description of where it came from or anything. The funny thing was that it mentioned Tom Fulp and Newgrounds, yet the user was getting credit and somepeople were calling it gay. Althogh hilarious, the actual person that made it isn't gonna know that people think that. Hopefully, submitters here will get the word and those assholes that are stealing those flashes will get what's coming to them!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:14 PM slackerzac says:

Alright man good job. Why do people have to be assholes and take other peoples movies. Oh and who does it feel to have your movie on the front page for over a month?


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:15 PM dugFresh says:

i thought i would let you know that the series is also on Gametrailers.com aswell.
http://www.gametrailers.com/search.ph p?str_type=allmedia&s=metal%20gea r%20awesome


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:15 PM StrikerF2 says:

Its good that you are taking action against this, I love youtube, but one reason that I hate it is becuase of all the stealing and crap you get there. There is no judgement system like here on NG (Unfortunetly, though the premesise of youtube would not work with one I imagine)

Though, you said earlier you wished you could mark it as copyright, but I tell you what would be even easier:

If youtube did not allow the uploading of .swfs

Any flash artist who wanted their animation on youtube, would probably be determined to find a good quality converter, but it would eliminate the vast majority of 13 year olds who think they're 1337 by right click -> view page source.

Ah well...


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:24 PM americanidiot2f says:

Every flash artist should have some watermark in there flashes and also should have something at the beginning noting
"Intended for Newgrounds.com, NOT anywhere else"

I somewhat do agree with Luis, but when you see so many of the same stolen uncreditted flashes everywhere it gets annoying. Especially when it is uncreditted. Every stolen flash should have, in huge bold red letters at the beginning

I DID NOT MAKE THIS
ORIGINALLY FROM NEWGROUNDS.COM
GO THERE
BETTER QUALITY
MORE GREAT FLASHES
MADE BY BLAHANDBLAH


Mar. 31, 2008 | 4:53 PM Onion-fusioN says:

My "Onreal Tournament" was put onto weakgame.com without my permission.

"www.weakgame.com/sexy-videos/22412-on real-tournament.html"
Sexy videos? =3

Anyway, do you think that I could get it removed? Doubt it got that many views, though.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:00 PM S-K says:

Welcome to the biggest flaw of internet entertainment (especially on youtube) people want to be entertained but:

they don't care how hard it is for you the creator,

they don't care who made it

a lot of times you're lucky if they even remember the creators name

These video stealing fags on youtube are only aware of those first 2 points which is why they steal, with the illusion they'll suddenly have friends when no-one gives a shit about them just the movies.

Anywho more in response to what you did I recommend you put a little more of your cartoons on there, not all of them just enough to reel more people in, you KNOW that 'sales' er I mean new fans tatic makes sense XP


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:00 PM KingDavid says:

"http://youtube.com/watch?v=kDqaUOPXCZ w&feature=related"

made by ... newgrounds

LMAO


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:12 PM hitman-kill-3 says:

yeah man i searched fot metal gear solid once to look at the mgs4 trailer and then BAAM like 45 metal gear awesome videos and channels ive tried to report it but since im not the author of those videos i couldnt make any thing about it but ooo happy thay!!! new grounds is now the only and official metal gear awesome errmmm .............."SHOW-er" well any way im glad you did that fucking tubers.....>:(


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:25 PM Candora says:

Before I kind of had that issue. I'm not an animator, but when I find a flash I like, I first check if the video exists on YouTube. If there isn't one or there are only poor quality ones, I ask the author to record and post said video. If I get a reply, I either go on with the process or don't


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:29 PM Minaturekyuubi says:

You rock egoraptor!!! No one has a cool mind like yours...... or the humor you have


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:34 PM emanhattan says:

well good for you mate. but for others is cool because THE WHOLE point of all this ng buisness is to get into people's eyes. so basically its free publicity.

its still very assholish to steal stuff. very gay demonstrates no creativity or talent. not to mention "reciving credits for something you didnt make"

cya


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:41 PM icehulk34 says:

This actually made me laugh a little, because I actually found out about the awesome series on youtube in the first place...Lol?
:P


Mar. 31, 2008 | 5:41 PM EvilEgg says:

Well my only vids on youtube have been done with permission and blessing by my friend and number 1 fan. I see it as good exposure either way just as long as he is the only one doing it.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:21 PM camobch0 says:

That's a really good post, and I love your work. It shouldn't be uploaded to YouTube because it really does defeat the purpose unless you post it and talk about how newgrounds is a very amazing website providing users with all this content, except the creators get credit. Check out the Newgrounds Podcast at ngpodcast.blogspot.com to find an interview on our next episode with Egoraptor!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:30 PM KIRBYLINK says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_oubs HsmYI :3


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:34 PM JonBro says:

Awesome series is way too awesome for YouTube.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 6:53 PM Hylian-Mafia says:

Yeah, If that pissed you off remember when Ultimate Showdown was released on Newgrounds. Youtube was flooded and still is with Ultimate Showdown anyways you make a great point.
When I talk to people about an animation they reply "Oh yeah that video on Youtube!" or what do I search under in Youtube. I think Newgrounds should do something to prevent this on Youtube just like how 21st Century Fox and Other Broadcasting companies have control of what "stuff" from their shows can be seen on Youtube.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 7:11 PM Feniiku says:

Good on ya, EgoRaptor. It's great to see that you're taking efforts against the YouTube videos. I don't really watch anything other than my friends' home movie crap on there bh, for exactly the reasons you described- fuzzy, copressed meh that is infringing on copyright and peoples' wishes.

Also good to know that there's a system for it, like others have said. Shame you have to search for it manually by yourself, but it's better than leaving people to watch it in the horrible ripped formats.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 7:28 PM Quebecboy says:

I've found one!! :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opApEb 2GrHo&feature=related


Mar. 31, 2008 | 7:29 PM Quebecboy says:

I've found another! :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18_HFP Mi-0k&feature=related


Mar. 31, 2008 | 7:57 PM VanillaGui says:

if the submitters at least specified "a flash animation made by Egoraptor"...


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:20 PM juansolous says:

yeah man I really hate that, I always see newgrounds content on youtube? (I also use youtube)It not fair see your work, and they take the credit for it? I'm also sad that not alot of people know about Newgrounds and Newgrounds had been around longer then youtube? I'm gald your doing this, and I hope that other users will do the same. I haven't made a Flash yet but I know how it feels when someone take something from me? keep up the great work man!!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:20 PM ngfanp3rs0n says:

they should at least credit you, or better yet, just not put the flashes on at all


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:32 PM voidshatter says:

your doing gods work egoraptor, i think its god either that or Zimjorbl the 2 1/2 ton swamp frog


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:34 PM VeeMan says:

That's great Egoraptor, it's something that should be done more often. I mean hell, I saw Charlie the Unicorn and Numa Numa on youtube before I knew they existed on Newgrounds. Hopefully more artist will do this and people will stop stealing people's work.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 8:57 PM Mitdylan says:

I had no idea this was such a problem.
I'll help out any way I can to prevent copyright.
NEWGROUNDS FOREVER!!!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:02 PM FightingSeraph says:

The first thing I attempted to upload on YouTube was a Flash Intro I made by myself, but it failed to upload. If you thought having your stuff stolen and uploaded was bad; you should see what they did to Ren & Stimpy creator John Kricfalusi's videos he made and uploaded. This also happened to Mark Mayerson
and probably Doug TenNapel as well.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:09 PM Ravenous6 says:

Great job dude!
If it wasn't for newgrounds, I wouldn't even know the Awesome series, so cheers to newgrounds!
When someone wants to post something from a site like newgrounds to a site like Youtube, the least he can do is ask the author's permission.
It's not only a matter of copyright, but a matter of respect towards it's original author.
I think if you wanted it on Youtube, you'd have placed it there yourself long ago.

So anyway, well done and I wish you all the best!



Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:35 PM jenova-absolute says:

Oh shut the the fuck up you little bitch. You didnt make metal gear solid but you don't see hideo kojima bitching about every video that features mgs content on youtube, You've done fuck all to earn this massive amount of fame, you've got a fucking t-shirt on the ng page, I mean most ppl have dreamed about that for years, you probably havent known NG has existed for that long, they've been on it since 1999 odd. Fucking be happy with what you've got. In the end you might release funny pardies but thats all they are, nothing origional, just what everyoners thinking, thats why people find them funny. I pray unlike legendary frog you find your more creative side as I've seen it in your easter eggs.

Mar. 31, 2008 | 9:57 PM Egoraptor responds:

Chill the fuck out.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:15 PM Masterswordman says:

Neat. JohnnyUtah should do the same with Tankmans.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:37 PM uberguyperson says:

1. jenova-absoute, I agree with Egoraptor. He's annoyed because people steal his work, and then they don't even give him credit.

2. More stolen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxgN82 tOm_c&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18_HFP Mi-0k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycf7zw xo6mc&feature=related


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:50 PM chriswc30 says:

hmmmm it would piss me off to have my work stolen thats why i dont do any :D but its a good messege and i hope people will listen to it


Mar. 31, 2008 | 10:56 PM DariusR says:

Some people were doing that with a couple of my old sprite movies, but I didn't really object since sprites are "stolen" anyway according to most of the NG community. I just took the burden of signing up for Youtube and commenting the guy to tell him how much he sucks. Haha.


Mar. 31, 2008 | 11:20 PM walterwagner says:

hey r u making mental gear awsome 3 plz let me know pm me plz i love all ur funny crap plz make mga3 i love it!!!


Mar. 31, 2008 | 11:43 PM Napalmed says:

Every time I see 'This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Many Faces of Egoraptor' it makes me feel warm inside. You're improving the internet, one step at a time :D


Mar. 31, 2008 | 11:51 PM minimelo321 says:

OK, so some people are posting all the awesome videos that are still on youtube in the comments, and I'm guessing people are probally PM'ing you and emailing you aswell to show the links. My question is, what do you want us, the viewers, to do when we see your work being stolen on youtube?

Apr. 1, 2008 | 1:27 AM Egoraptor responds:

I think it's great how people are sending me links to videos that are up on Youtube, but the thing is I can't report a movie if I'm linked directly to it... I can only report it if I find it on a search page. A weird system, I know, but it'd help me out much much more if people sent me links to the search queries instead of the actual movies.

If you really wanna help me out, that's the way to do it man. =)


Apr. 1, 2008 | 12:00 AM IntangibleHands says:

But will This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pvIlz PVNW0
be flagged?


Apr. 1, 2008 | 12:17 AM SomeGuyChokingACat says:

i think this is awesome ill try to send word around if i see anything of newgrounds there


Apr. 1, 2008 | 12:24 AM DeRosa says:

"OH MY GOD, METAL GEEEEEEEAAAR *underbite*"

To be honest, Ego, that made my day, that line right there. It was also great of you to take your time and actually animate that entire video in Awesome form. That oughta teach those pirating mofos.


Apr. 1, 2008 | 12:28 AM RWappin says:

The main thing that bugs me